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October 16, 2007

All RE is Local (Oct'07 edition)

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Clearly, everybody will continue to buy every piece of real estate in our neighborhood that ever comes up for sale.  At any price.  Forever.  Even so, we doggedly keep checking for signs of a trend change.

In an effort to make the listings easier to compare, at the risk of leaving out some of the juicier tidbits, we standardized the format for each house.

# Bd/Bth/Gar SqFeet LotSize Built  RE Tax/LastSold/Cost Ask   Zestimate
1) 5/ 4 /2   4,100  14,000  1999. $14,513/ 2005 / $1.2M "$2.0M" $1.561M
2) 4/3.5/2   3,000  10,000 "2007"     -- /   -- / --     $2.75M    n/a
3) 4/ 3 /2   2,519  14,374  1952  $12,233/ 2003 /~$950K  $1.780  $1.800M
4) 3/2.5/1   2,600   4,000  2004  $10,022/ 2002 /~$750K  $1.995  $1.461M
5) 3/2.5/2   2,291  11,761  1942   $3,084/~1970s/~$125K  $1.899  $1.649M
6) 4/3.5/2   3,600  12,000  2007  #13,172 /2005 /$1.172  $3.090  $1.819M
7) 3/2.5/2   2,395  13,400  1959  $12,499/ 2001 / $960K  $1.688  $1.742M

Building on last month's list:

# Bd/Bth/Gar SqFeet LotSize Built  RE Tax/LastSold/Cost  Asking Zestimate
5) 3/2.5/2    2,291 11,761  1942   $3,084/~1970s/~$125K $1.899 $1.649M

---Still listed for sale.

Well, at least one over-priced, 65-year-old PoS didn't sell.

# Bd/Bth/Gar SqFeet LotSize Built RE Tax/LastSold/Cost  Asking Zestimate
4) 3/2.5/1    2,600  4,000  2004 $10,022/ 2002 /~$750K  $1.995  $1.461M

---Still listed for sale.

Yikes, is this a trend?  The lay-out, closet space and overall set-up were awful and maybe this time some of that actually mattered?  If we were correct in surmising this flipper carved a second house out of this property, he may be willing to wait a loooong time to move this slapdash set-up.

# Bd/Bth/Gar SqFeet LotSize Built RE Tax/LastSold/Cost  Asking Zestimate
3) 4/ 3 /2    2,519 14,374  1952 $12,233/ 2003 /~$950K  $1.780  $1.800

---Shortly after publishing last month's piece, the RE agent returned an e-mail to say this house was under contract.  She stated they received two offers within five days of listing the house and expected to close about September 15.  (i.e., It probably sold above list.)

# Bd/Bth/Gar SqFeet LotSize Built RE Tax/Last Sold/Cost  Asking Zestimate
2) 4/3.5/2    3,000 10,000 "2007"    -- /   -- / --    $2.75M   n/a

---This was the one guarded by a real estate harpie who seemed very irritated to have to explain this was "new construction."  Zillow hasn't yet added this address making it difficult to determine how it ended up.  The saga on the next house suggests $2.75M might have been a tough sell.

# Bd/Bth/Gar SqFeet LotSize Built RE Tax/LastSold/Cost  Asking Zestimate
1) 5/ 4 /2    4,100 14,000  1999 $14,513/ 2005 / $1.2M.  "$2.0M"$1.561M

---This is the house slated to go up for auction on September 29.  We stopped by that afternoon and were told papers had yet been signed if we wanted to put in a bid.  The agent said the high bid to that point was $2.2M.

This is a long way below the flipper's original $2.7M asking price.  At $1.2M +$200K for two-plus years' carrying costs +$200/square foot times 4,000 square feet = $2.2M costs.

Was a $2.2M sale a zero cash profit for this flipper?

Out of last month's five houses, one sold above list, one auctioned off $500K below the original asking price.

Now if #1)'s 4,100 square feet only went for $2.2M, who is going to pay $2.75M for #2)'s 3,000 square feet?  I guess you never know, particularly after you see one of this month's new listings:

# Bd/Bth/Gar SqFeet LotSize Built RE Tax/LastSold/Cost Asking Zestimate
6) 4/3.5/2    3,600 12,000  2007 $13,172 /2005 /$1.172  $3.090 $1.819
---This was a 3/2 with 1,600 square feet a flipper tore down and replaced so the Zestimate is relevant only to the original house.  The new 3,600 square-foot house is poorly thought out and, despite the marble counter-tops and stainless appliances, shoddily executed.  The brochure touts the developer's alleged experience building top-tier hotels yet some planks in the wood floors felt warped to our show-less feet and we stumbled into several uneven seams throughout the wood and tile floors.  The off bedrooms were small and the master bathroom had only one sink.

I guess we'll see if our neighborhood will support another $3M+ house.

# Bd/Bth/Gar SqFeet LotSize  Built RE Tax/LastSold/Cost Asking Zestimate
7) 3/2.5/2    2,395 13,400  1959 $12,499 / 2001 /$960K  $1.688 $1.742M

---The agent claimed the overall market was still strong but there had been very little traffic at this house for the two weeks since she listed it.

This might be most nearly-reasonable off the listings left but would have to be graded significantly inferior to #3) whose 2,519 square feet sold above $1.78M last month.

A couple conclusions stand out this month:
1) The "sweet spot" in 2002 was ~$1.2M which by 2004 increased to ~$1.4M.  Even though rates are higher, the "sweet spot" today seems to be ~$1.8M?  (Or at least there is some hesitation to buy a complete PoS at $2.0M.)

2) There no apparent limit to what flippers will pay if the lot is big enough to build a second house.

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